Thursday, January 10, 2008

These guys shouldn't be writing about their intellectual superiors

A new research journal, "Answers Research Journal" from the geniuses behind Answers in Genesis, "is a professional, peer-reviewed technical journal for the publication of interdisciplinary scientific and other relevant research from the perspective of the recent Creation and the global Flood within a biblical framework." Why? Because "There has been a pressing need for such a journal. Online publishing speeds up the publication process so that the latest cutting-edge creationist research is available more quickly. "

Yes, whenever a complicated scientific question comes up, the quicker we hear the answer, "God did it," the better. Whew! Since every scientific question has that exact same answer, you'd think scientists would have learned it by now, but I guess they're just stupid.

If you're concerned about the quality of review of such a journal, please put such considerations aside:
Furthermore, people want to know they can trust what is published on the Internet, which is why papers in our journal will be reviewed by the best experts we have available to us through a large network of well-qualified creationist researchers, scientists, and theologians who are the best thinkers in their fields of creationist research. Thus, we can give you absolute assurance that the papers we will be publishing in our Answers Research Journal are of the highest scientific and theological standard.
Finally! Theologians applying a theological standard to scientific research! About time. This is just what science has needed for centuries, ever since "empirical evidence" and "objectivity" have become so important.

The first volume contains this brilliance about microbes.
"Could there be other creatures composed entirely of microbes of which we are unaware? In addition, how do we classify microbes taxonomically from a creation perspective? Do they fit into conventional or baraminic taxonomical convention? How do we view them biblically? What day were they created? What were they originally created for? Were they created as separate baramins or were they created as parts of other organisms? Or were they created as part of the earth on Day Three? These are just some of the intriguing questions facing the field of creation microbiology."
I have no idea how you would determine on what "day" microbes were created, but I'm sure these mighty thinkers will apply reason and research to let us know.

Thanks to PZ.

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

papers in our journal will be reviewed by the best experts we have available to us through a large network of well-qualified creationist researchers, scientists, and theologians who are the best thinkers in their fields of creationist research.

Isn't talking about the "best thinkers" here sort of like talking about the tallest building after the A-bomb dropped?

Anonymous said...

Have you been to the Creation Museum website (www.creationmuseum.org)? Much like most things to do with Answers in Genesis, it leaves me dumbfounded (emphasis on the dumb). Of particular interest is the article "A Tale of Two Museums" link in the "What People Are Saying" section. A creationist compares his experience at the Creation Museum with the Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History. On a side note, ahtitan called the museum to find out why they had a planetarium if the world was flat. He never got an answer.

Ipecac said...

It's not only stupid, it's tragically sad how some people will go through life so deluded. They'll die never knowing the reality of existence.

Anonymous said...

Bob,

We will all die not knowing the reality of existence. There will always be mysteries that science will be working on that will not be resolved in our lifetimes. For example, is time travel possible? Is there life elsewhere in the universe? Are there other universes?

And, you are sort of imposing your values on others. I don't know if it's "tragic" that people don't know the reality of existence. I suspect a lot of these people are quite happy with their view of the world. My view of the world is there is no God and you just die. I'm not sure that makes me happier. One might be happier being deluded. I know that Aristotle said that the unexamined life is not worth living, but, on the other hand, if the examined life makes you miserable, what's the point?

Ipecac said...

You don't find it tragic that people who are obviously interested in science, the people behind Answers in Genesis for example, have no real understanding of how it works or why it's marvelous? That they're spending their lives just playing at science, contributing nothing of lasting value and actually retarding human progression, because the religious beliefs they were most likely indocrinated into prevent them from opening their minds? That's not tragic and sad to you?

ahtitan said...

It all comes to a blue pill/red pill question, doesn't it? Initially, the harsh reality (no kind Highfather in the sky) might be jarring, but that will then open your mind to be able to be awed by science and how stuff really works, without the crutch of the magic creator man. As an atheist, death scares the crap out of me because I KNOW that's the end. But it makes me want to live life now, to the fullest, because I KNOW this is my only shot.

Anonymous said...

What I consider tragic is people dying needlessly or children being born with horriying birth defects or soldiers dying in stupid wars. I don't consider it tragic to not accept scientific accounts any more than I consider it "tragic" to be an atheist. As for having your mind opened, again, that's your own values. Many people would say it's a mind blowing experience to do hallucinogenic drugs or to bungee jump off cliffs but my choice is not to do those things. People get through life the best they can--I'm not going to judge how they do it. Who are you really to say people should accept the finality of death? Maybe people live a happier life thinking they are going to heaven and that they will meet their loved ones there. We all have illusions, even so-called rationalists. And I don't see why it's any less awesome to think that God made the miracles of nature than to think it was all natural. Physics is pretty cool however it came about.

As for them being scientists, there were "scientists" that thought lobotomies would cure mental illness, scientists that thought we should purify the races through genetics, etc. I don't consider the Creation types scientists, but even if they are, it's no crazier than a lot of stuff that has passed for science over the years.

The problem I have with these kinds of arguments is that it seems you are just saying that because you think it's better to see the world one way, everyone else should. I don't see why that's any less dogmatic than the religious fundamentalists who think everyone should accept Jesus Christ.

Ipecac said...

I guess I value truth more than you do. :-)

Here's the irony in your post.

What I consider tragic is people dying needlessly or children being born with horriying birth defects or soldiers dying in stupid wars.

You can find all of these today, in the 21st century, as a direct result from people's religious beliefs.

ahtitan said...

Examples of how believing in God is harmful, and therefore tragic:

Old people giving money to charlatans.

Trusting in God, rather than your own skill and resources, thus cutting yourself off from success.

Being satisfied by "God did it" and failing to pursue further scientific discovery.

Training your children to be mindless sheep that feel they are "sinful" deep inside, leading to low self-esteem.

War in the name of god.

Terrorism in the name of god.

Spousal abuse in the name of god.

Male and female circumcision.

Feeling the urge to tell someone who's just lost a child to cancer that "God needed another angel."

Veggie Tales.