Sunday, January 06, 2013

Subway DOESN'T have ketchup, dammit!


My family and I have a long-standing joke about my hatred of the sandwich store Subway for not carrying ketchup.  (These days some stores do carry ketchup, others do not.) Turns out, some of the employees are way too overprotective of the "no ketchup" policy.
"He wants ketchup on the Philly cheese steak and I have never put -- we don't even have ketchup at Subway -- I've never put ketchup on anybody's sandwich," said [Subway employee] Ordone.
...
"That's when I flew off the handle," said Ordone.
"He shoved a chair to the side, like knocked it down to come at me, and I said, 'This is going to be serious,'" said [customer] Martinez.
"I said, 'Let's go, fight me like a man,'" said Ordone.
The employee has been fired.

For the record, my preference for cheese steak is provolone, not Cheez Wiz, and mayonnaise, not ketchup. When I was in college I ate my cheese steaks with ketchup but once I tried mayo, I never went back.

18 comments:

Eric Haas said...

What kind of sandwich would you get at Subway that you would put ketchup on?

Ipecac said...

Cheese steaks. This grudge goes back a LONG time. :-)

ahtitan said...

I can't think of a single thing at Subway that wouldn't be ruined by ketchup. You, sir, are an abomination.

Ipecac said...

I first saw this story on Pharyngula and most of the comments were from people who put ketchup on cheese steaks. I thought I was an outlier, but apparently it's big in the Baltimore area. (Please note again that I no longer put ketchup on cheese steaks.)

Eric Haas said...

I've lived in the Baltimore area all my life, and I've never heard of putting ketchup on cheese steaks.

Ipecac said...

From Wikipedia:

The meat traditionally used is thinly sliced rib-eye or top round, although other cuts of beef are also used.[10] On a lightly oiled griddle at medium temperature, the steak slices are quickly browned and then scrambled into smaller pieces with a flat spatula. Slices of cheese are then placed over the meat, letting it melt, and then the roll is placed on top of the cheese. The mixture is then scooped up with a spatula, pressed into the roll, and cut in half.[11]

Common additions include sautéed onions, bell peppers, pickles, mushrooms, mayonnaise, hot sauce, salt, pepper and ketchup.

Also see:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070110140847AANyDLv

http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/381859

Eric Haas said...

Anybody can edit a Wikipedia article.

Ipecac said...

So your position is that someone is lying in a wikipedia article about people putting ketchup on cheese steaks?

SJHoneywell said...

Okay, wait. You don't put ketchup on cheese steak anymore, but you're still upset that they don't have ketchup that you no longer want for your cheese steak?

Seems like grudge for grudge's sake.

Ipecac said...

Finally! Someone who gets it!

;-)

Eric Haas said...

Let's just say, "citation needed."

Ipecac said...

Well, let's see, so far you have the following evidence of the ketchup/cheese steak phenomenon:

- Me (in the past)
- The Subway customer in the article
- The Wikipedia article
- The TWO OTHER links I gave you,both of which have multiple comments from people who like ketchup on cheese steak
- The Pharyngula post I referenced which also has multiple comments from posters who like ketchup on cheese steak

Sounds to me like all you have is an argument from incredulity.

Eric Haas said...

All anecdotal at best. I’ll bet just as many people would swear to having sat next to bigfoot while riding in a UFO.

Ipecac said...

So people saying "I eat cheese steak with ketchup" is anecdotal? They're not saying someone else is doing it, they're saying they do it. And we're not proving that everyone does it, only that SOMEONE does it. My testimony and that of the Subway guy is enough by itself. Ipso facto.

Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.

SJHoneywell said...

I can't specifically verify ketchup on cheese steak, but I can verify that a lot of people in my neck of the woods (including my wife and kids) put ketchup on Italian beef, which is basically cheese steak minus the cheese. It's not really a stretch.

Eric Haas said...

The claim was that ketchup was a common condiment on cheese steaks. So, yes, the testimony of a handful of gustatorally challenged weirdos qualifies as anecdotal.

Ipecac said...

And . . . scene.

Thus concludes this week's radioplay of Eric Haas . . . Food Superskeptic.

:-)

Is it really sad that this is the longest comment thread on my Blog EVER?

Ipecac said...

Check out this as well:

http://www.firehouse.com/forums/t107746-print/